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Hi there,
Right now, many of you are wondering about integrating ECATs into an electric car.
This is a proposal that I made some time ago by replacing part of the batteries with the ECAT system :
https://photos.app.goo.gl/neLrPWsUu3UYj2ye6
Here is another proposal from several years ago which was an ECAT kit installed in the front trunk of an existing car to recharge the batteries :
https://photos.app.goo.gl/UsSD16odijdkZwA66
Have a good day,
Dan Bad
Daniel Badoual:
I know, and it is very interesting.Thnk you for this proposal.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Looking into my “Crystal Ball” and the future. If the Ecat SKLep is successful (meets specs and is commercially viable), then it could be used within homes to meet the electrical needs of the home with excess energy flowing back into the electrical grid.
As more and more homes become energy independent and energy providers, some form of electrical grid control will be required to diminish the amount of excess energy flowing back into the electrical grid. As the demands of the electrical increase and decrease, some form of system control will need to be implemented.
Since you have stated the lifetime of the SKLep is not the amount of energy it produces but the amount of operating time, would it not be wise to develop a local network controller to accept requests from the electrical grid to reduce or increase the amount of energy flowing into the home or from the home? This controller would need to turn off or on specific unit(s) to meet the energy requirements while maximizing the remaining operating time of the individual SKLep units.
For example, the controller would not always turn on or off unit #1 while allowing the other units to continue. Would it not be better to distribute the operating time of all SKLep units controlled by the local controller?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you again for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@Matthias
The english translation for ‘Balkonkraftwerk’ is either balcony power plant or balcony power station.
I agree the ecat SKLep would be a good solution for a balcony power plant. But it is a little bit more complicated.
If you like to discuss send me a message, just ‘google’ my name.
Regards
Horst Dieter Preschel
Dear Dr. Rossi,
i know you wrote that an ecat of 100 Watt will shut off if there will be an electrical overload of f.e. 110 Watt or more.
Therefore i cannot just plug in the ecat to the mains like a “Balkonkraftwerk” – i do not know the english word for it, in germany it is allowed to plug in up to 600 Watt PV straight to the wall socket. Then at first the power of the PV will be used and all what is above the production of the PV comes from the grid.
If this would be possible for an ecat you would have immediately the breakthrough in the market.
Best regards
Matthias
Matthias:
We must make a distinction: one thing is the Ecat’s plug to the grid, another is the load connected to the Ecat.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
to be realistic: If the ecat really works as you describe and the test shows us, you do not have to fear competitors.
In the start of such a new product the demand is high, every replication could be even more expensive than your original if it has say just 6 month delivery time instead of say 18 month delivery time by Leonardo.
And this condition of the market will be last many years, simply because the setup of production facilities won’t keep pace with the market demand.
Best regards
A.Heinzmann
A. Heinzmann:
Thank you for your opinion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
When will you publish the Ecat safety certification ?
Best,
Mody
Mody:
As you know, we made the safety certifications. The Ecats will be delivered with the data of the certification in the label.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
you asked for detailed meaning of my question,
if the primary and secondary side of the device are galvanically coupled.
What I meant was:
When I am feeding the input of the unit (primary side) with about 1W, applying a voltage there,
is the output of the device completely independent from this input and I can combine the ouputs of many devices
in series (or maybe even in parallel) without having to care for the input voltage reference (GND).
Thanks!
Best Regards
Gerson
Gerson:
The answer is complex and depends on the specific situations. In general, the modules can be connected in series and parallels, the power source schematic depends from the specific application,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
To re-phrase my question, do you agree that you have confidence:
1. That other manufacturers are unlikely to be make a cheaper product than yours any time soon? Because your product is efficiently designed?
2. That the Public will chose a Rossi e-Cat based on your successful demo and development work? Because they will have trust that your product works?
3. That your product patent can and will be globally enforced due to sufficient investor legal funds already on hand? Any imitators will be forced to pay you royalties?
Therefore, we are likely to see many millions of e-Cat SKLeps produced when the customer orders are verified and accepted? Causing smiles on happy customers?
I hope you agree.
Best Regards,
Daniel G. Zavela
Daniel G. Zavela:
1- I don’t know and never underestimate a competitor
2- I hope so
3- It is a complex issue
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I have seen a lot of very ambitious proposals for the ECat. Everyone seems, if even possible, too far fetched and in need of a lot of research and efforts. Perhaps the initial idea of a LED lamp powered by an ecat was on the right path. Do you think that a single ECat 100w can be combined with an electric byke battery. If it is feasible you will have your ‘Killer Application’ that could finance your next steps in developing the ecat.
Steve:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Have the safety certifications for the Ecat SKLep been done ?
Is it necessary to explain the theory upon which the Ecat works to obtain the certification ?
Best
Jimbo
Jimbo:
Yes, the safety certification has been done. The safety certification process does not depend on the theoretical supposed bases of the technology.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Claus Buerger:
It depends on the specific situation.
As I already explained, we will give assistance for specific applications when we will deliver the preordered units,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
am very impressed with you answering those many questions very patiently and wise by yourself!
And I’m finding the 1./2./3. style the most effective ;).
1.) Are the primary and secondary side of the 100W unit galvanically connected (e.g. GND to GND)
or completely independent?
2.) The expected life of the unit of about 100,000 hours:
2a.) Is it just the material getting older that makes the limit, or the power capability that is reached then?
Questions behind the question:
2b.) If I use the unit only half the time, will it absolutely live for 200,000 hours?
2c.) If I use the unit with only a load of 25W will it be working 400,000 hours?
Many thanks for your answers.
Will help me to better think of applications (electrical engineer)
Best Regards
Gerson
Gerson:
1- what do you mean with “primary and secondary side” ?
2a- aging material
2b- 100000 hours mean s of operation
2c- no, the lifespan does not depend on the power, only on the operational time
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
thank you!
Questions:
A) To mitigate the electricity bill of my apartment, can I simply – as an example – connect 10 Ecats with 230V AC output in parallel via a multiple socket to the apartment power grid?
B) If A) is true, does this also work when the power grid fails, so to speak in island mode or does the ecat nead an existing 230V supply.
C) If B) is true: If I now take out the main fuse, could I then supply the entire apartment by connecting 10 parallel-connected Ecats with 230V AC output to several sockets each?
D) Does this mean that the Ecat 230V AC output automatically synchronizes with the mains and then functions like a generator?
Dear Andrea,
Much criticism about the validity of OU devices has been that reproducibility of operation is sporadic. I think if you display a system in operation then replace it with two or three other systems operating in a similar fashion, you can convince many people of its validity. Perhaps this would aid you to reach your 1M objective.
Convincing regards.
Eernie1:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
The linkage of your requirement by your investors to sell 1 million units to hit your product price targets is understandable.
Your concern about product re-engineering by others is a puzzle to me,
1, Are you worried that other manufacturers can somehow make a cheaper product?
2. That the Public will chose an Apple e-Cat or a GE e-Cat over a Rossi e-Cat and ignore your successful demo and development work?
3. That your product patent can not be globally enforced due to a lack of legal funds?
Perhaps you can tell us what is the reason product re-engineering concerns you?
Best of luck with your sales effort.
Best Regards,
Daniel G. Zavela
Daniel G. Zavela:
The reason why the investors of Leonardo Corporation need a proper income before reverse engineering is enforced is obvious.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear readers,
A concept of an eletric car, driven by an electric generator, which privedes a constant amount of electricity fed into a battery, exists.
The former Audi-engeneer Roland Gumpert has developed a car, which uses a 15kW-methanol-fuel-cell, which is connected to a battery which drives the car.
This car is called “Nathalie” and is availible (to buy or to lease). Gumpert has founded an own company to realize Nathalie:
https://www.rolandgumpert.com/en/
Now imagine to replace the methanol-Fuel cell with Ecat SKLeps (150 pieces in this case). This would be – in my opinion – the perfect concept.
Dr. Rossi: In my opinion it would make sence to contact Mr. Gumpert. He seems to be very innovative and open for new ideas. And there is not that resistance against new concepts you can find in big companies…
Best regards, Martin
Martin:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
I suggest a different way of analyzing the use of Ecat SKLep technology with Electric Vehicles (EVs).
In the US, the average commute is a one-way trip of 16 miles and a commute time of just under 30 minutes. The two-way daily commute would be 32 miles and 1 hour.
In the US, the average residential electric energy consumption is 30 kW-hrs / day.
Assumptions:
1. A workday of 9 hours (8 hours plus 1 hour for lunch/breaks) + a 1 hour commute time = 10 hours per workday.
2. Personal travel (shopping) of 2 hours per day – this leaves 12 hours per day with the vehicle being at the residence.
3. An EV efficiency of 300 Wh/mi, yields about 10 kW-hrs of energy used in vehicle transport per day
Therefore, the average residential and driving energy consumption is 40-kW-hrs per day.
In 12 hours at the residence, this would require about 4 kW power production rate.
If smart dual-direction energy stations were at the workplace (9 hours per day), the energy production rate drops to about 2 kW.
Scenario: You leave your Tesla Model Y plugged into your residential dual-direction charging station while at your residence. You drive to work (30 minutes) and plug into the workplace dual-direction charging station assigned for your vehicle. After work, you drive home, perhaps do some shopping, and plug into your dual-direction charging station at your residence.
If you go on long trips, you make use of the Tesla supercharging network while traveling. Plug into a dual-direction charging station at the motel/hotel where you remain overnight. Your account is credited with the electricity produced – logged under your Tesla car serial number.
A 2 kW Ecat SKLep 100W system would cost about $5k USD, while a 4 kW system would cost about $10K USD.
Assuming an average electric bill of $200 / month = $2,400 / year. Pay-off would occur within about 4 years.
Assume tax credits would encourage businesses and residential owners to install such dual-direction devices.
By comparison, an equivalent solar panel installation on a residential house might cost up to $50K USD.
Thoughts?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
One more thing on electric vehicles (EVs). The energy stored in the EV could be used to pump energy back into the electrical grid if the charger is bi-directional. Tesla is considering this. So, if an EV is driven little and plugged in when not in use, then SKLep units in the vehicle could generate revenue for the owner using excess energy supplied to the electrical grid.
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
My assumptions
I think you said that once you have a million orders and can start production that it would take you about 1 year to ramp up and fill those first million orders.
I also assume if the ecat is seen by customers to work as promised that you would have a tsunami of new orders very quickly after starting deliveries. That would give you your million orders months before you would be in a position to fill them.
1. Why not start production when you have maybe 750,000 vetted orders which might give you 9 or 10 months before you would need to receive the final 250,000 orders.
Thanks
LarryJ
LarryJ:
Thank you for your assumptions and suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Greetings Andrea,
Just curious if there’s anything you can share about current efforts (such as demos to potential customers) to help get over the million order finish line?
Steve Albers:
The answer is complex, I prefer to keep it confidential.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
I am a bit confused about your answers to Heinrich.
Once you say that you are ready to produce as soon as the one million pre orders are reached.
Then you say it is premature to advertise, to invide people for tests to your office ASO to reach the one million faster.
These statements contradicts each other.
I am more and more assailed by doubts that you want to start the production, what ever reasons you have.
Nevertheless, best regards
Michael
Michael:
Sorry to contradict you, but to be ready to produce is not in contrast to consider premature the advertising, that obviously will start when we will be ready to deliver. Since we are not yet able to foresee when we will reach the target necessary to start the production, it is a logic consequence the fact that we consider premature to foresee when we will start the due advertising.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Koen Vandewalle,
Good points. A few issues:
1. Each car does not need a Supercharger rate of 100kW. If an Electric Vehicle (EV) has a battery pack capacity of 60kW-hrs, and a charging period of 8 hours, then a charging rate of 8 kW is sufficient. 8 hours is how long most people work. 8 hours (or more) is how long people are at their residence and the EV could be charging during that time. 80 100W SKLep units would cost about $20k USD – although market pressures will likely drive the per kW cost down with time. Most people don’t drive 3 hours to work, so the vehicle charging rate need only be the amount of battery energy used per trip divided by the charging time. For example, if one commutes to work in one hour of driving time and consumes 36 kW-hrs of energy including the return trip, has 8 hours to charge while at work and 8 hours (or more) of charging when at his/her residence, then the needed charging rate is 36 kW-hrs / 16 hours or about 2kW. 2 kW could be provided by 20 Ecat SKLep 100W units at a cost of $5K USD.
2. Hydrogen has its own problems – explosive when mixed with air, fire, metal embrittlement, storage.
3. Propane has carbon which still produces CO2 when used, albeit cleaner than gasoline. Propane has storage issues (temperature and density – compared to gasoline).
Perhaps the best solution is where home or other location Ecat SKLep units generate electricity 24/7 (continuously). Excess energy would flow back onto the electrical grid. Solar would help on Peak Demand hours. As AR says, an integrated energy approach is best.
Hi Koen Vandewalle
One more note. Imagine a slogan at a car show: This electric car doesn’t need charging, it charges itself over the course of 11 years.
With kind regards
Jan
Hi Koen Vandewalle
I think the opposite. Moreover, an electric car prototype for a large manufacturer is not a problem. When combining the E-catSKLep100W with a battery box, from the point of view of safety, it is necessary to comply with the condition not to overcharge the battery box above 4.2V per cell. Everything else is easier. 2 electric car prototypes can be tested within six months. For car manufacturers, this can be a boon as it will ensure their further development for many decades.
Electric cars are already produced by all the big car manufacturers and they have a lot of money invested in them. Supplementing with E-catSKLep100W in a certain amount is the easiest way to rapidly develop electromobility.
With kind regaŕds
Jan
Hi Steven N Karels,
I share your opinion on technical safety when designing new collaborations between technologies from various manufacturers. Considering what measures are sometimes required when vehicles are recalled to the factory due to accidents with a technical cause, I don’t think any manufacturer of the current car models will provide a conversion kit for an E-Cat.
The charging plug is always on the outside of the vehicle, not somewhere in the trunk. That has its reasons.
It is also never possible to get directly to the battery from the trunk or anywhere under the hood in a simple way.
So if EVs with E-Cat technology have to come onto the market, they will have to be installed in a controlled manner by the car manufacturers themselves. The best imaginable alternative is a mobile charging station that you can take with you in the vehicle, and which you have to place next to the parked vehicle for charging. 100 kWh/h is 1000 E-cats @ 250USD = 250,000 USD.
The standards are often a result of lobbying inspired by powerful, established industries. Nevertheless, my experience is that every standard had at least one or more precedents of accidents or near misses. Set a DIY-E-Cat-EV combination on fire in the underground parking garage of a residential complex or shopping center: Insurance companies and their lawyers will know where to find the tinkerer.
This week, an entire apartment building burned down in my area due to a malfunction of an electric bicycle.
I think EVs will be much less widespread than what we’re used to with today’s internal combustion engine vehicles. This is for many different reasons.
A better application is to use electricity to make hydrogen gas and syngas, from which all kinds of already known and commercialized products can be produced.
If the E-Cat makes it possible to make propane or plastic at 4 to 5 € per kilogram, then I don’t see why electric cars should be built. Fuel manufacturers plan to achieve about 25% of their production this way by 2030, and 100% by 2050
With kind regards,
Koen
Dear Andrea,
In your current testing, is the Ecat SKLep operating according to the specifications posted on the pre-order forms you have published?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Frank Acland:
Also,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Readers,
For what it is worth, an engineers role is to take a discovery and make it work and a scientists role is to take the discovery and understand why it works. We need both types of people in this crazy world.
Dear Fox and Lilylover,
The posting I made was not addressed to Andrea Rossi but to the General Audience. The integration of eCat SKLep technology into a current, production Electric Vehicle (EV) can be achieved by a professional engineer with access to the electrical, mechanical, and software designs and interfaces of the EV. That said, it would be a very challenging task for a lay person to successfully and safely integrate Ecat SKLep technology into their production EV.
Andrea Rossi (AR) kindly consents to answer our posts. He has even said that he may occasionally learn something from them.
In the past, I have suggested through JONP possible applications of Ecat technologies. A new thought for an application is not a waste of AR’s time. Making the product work is very important. Almost as important as knowing in what fields it might be used. Electrical power generation is obvious. Other possible applications are hidden “gems” that might be of interest to him. Or, AR can ignore them.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
Congratulations for the video in
http://www.ecat.com
I can’t wait to receive that beauty.
Happy Summer holidays,
Ron
Ron:
Thank you for your attention to our work,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
you wrote “premature” in answer to my questions.
Does this mean that you are not ready to start the production, yet? Even when the 1 million pre-orders are achieved?
Otherwise I do not understand why you do not take all steps now to get more pre-orders.
In another answer you wrote it is one week to start the delivery if the one million is reached.
I thought Leonardo wants to get the one million pre-order as soon as possible..
Warm regards
Heinrich
Heinrich:
When the target will be reached we will start the production and the deliveries,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mr. Rossi
1. Is the Ecat SKLed safe against falling from 1m
2. Will Ecat SKLed still work at 9V?
3. Is the Ecat SKLed rain resistant?
4. Is the Ecat SKLed resistant to frequent switching on and off
Warm regards
Jan Srajer:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mr.Rossi
I think that any large car manufacturer is able to provide testing of 2 electric car prototypes, equipped with E-catSKLep100W x appropriated number within six months of signing the contract between you and them.
The condition, according to my layman’s electrician’s point of view, is that E-catSKLep100W in a certain number of pieces should be resistant to the introduction of external voltage to E-catSKLep100W and feedback current from the output to the input E-catSKLep100W. Everything else can be solved more simply. The legal condition will probably be more demanding.
All the best J.Š.
Dear LilyLover – Steven Nicholas Karels and other readers.
You’re wasting Andrea Rossi’s time. Andrea must be to deal only with the things that only he knows: development and improvement of E-Cat SKLEP devices and problems strictly connected to them.
How to apply these devices to a car, a toaster or a heating system etc … or how to sell or advertise them are problems that millions of technicians can easily solve for him and for you. Therefore I suggest not to occupy Rossi’s precious time with these useless things. Focus on issues closely related to the e-Cat or information that you think would be useful to Rossi. Otherwise Rossi, rightly and kindly, will only reply with a “thank you for the suggestion” “cordial greetings” and the like
LilyLover:
in fact the kers of modern cars is nothing more than energy recovered during braking that recharges the batteries, there are no charging problems so
Dear JONP Readers, especially the ones that are confused by Steven Nicholes Karels,
Using E-Cat SKLEP to run electric vehicles is a relatively simple and obvious task.
First of all, more than one technologies have been developed over 15 years ago, by more than LG Chem or alike for charging vehicles while in motion to the tunes of charging rate of 50 to 100 MWh/h.
The joke of a standards need replaced for such an important of an invention. I’ll ensure to make that happen. Old st-up-id “standards” are routinely replaced by the new pioneering ones.
A standard does not have authority or power or ability or intent to bend reality; conventions do not dictate reality; but rather, new conventions are deployed for synchronized adoption of new reality for the maximum benefits at the cheapest costs. Connection from AC electrical power to DC battery can happen without any permission from any “standard”. “EV charging unit charges battery” is a meaningless tautology, which will remain true even if E-Cat SKLEP charges the battery, if one is needed or used at all.
When we are creating a reality in which complete disconnection from the AC supplier is a primary point, any “communication” with the “AC supplier” is meaningless distraction; even if it were not a distraction, the problem is already solved. Trickle charging is better than fast charging and the very benefit of on-board charger which also helps prolong the charging time as well as the battery life.
This ERADICATES any need for meaningless “complicated ‘handshake’ (head-shake)” which does not need to occur between “EV charger and the AC supply system”, which anyways is far too trivial and far too easy to worry about.
Moreover, one can just hook up any number of SKLEPs and avail as much power for Le Mans style racing as and when needed, and also turn off the unneeded SKLEPs except the few that would suffice to top-off the battery. Dumping energy is st-up-id, even if it becomes totally free, not just virtually free.
Bottom-line: A lot of detailed engineering that is required to enable an SKLEP array to power an EV is ‘college grade problem’ as of now, since, it has already been solved for automotive applications over a couple of decades ago and for power engineering heavy industrial operations for over several decades ago, if not a century ago.
Takeaway: Things will happen. Rejoice!!!
Dear Dr Rossi,
Wouldn’t a simple SKLep DC powered resistance space heater (combined SKLep & heater) be almost as simple to manufacture as the SKLep itself? I would think that with the disrupted energy market in Europe there would be an immense demand for SKLep heaters. Couldn’t a SKLep radiant heater with no fan operate without need for a battery or inverter (except for a small control battery)?
Best regards,
Iggy Dalrymple
Iggy Dalrymple:
Yes, the Ecat SKLep can power a resistance,
see the video in
http://www.ecat.com
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Andrea,
are you familiar with the research of Dr. Randall Mills and the electron ‘hydrino’ theory? … His work and research can validate your work as well…
Here is a recent article on peer reviewed work.
https://brilliantlightpower.com/gutcp-review-completed-webb-shows-predicted-big-bang-bust/
Jeff Smathers,
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear JONP Readers,
Using Ecat SKLep to run Electric Vehicles (EVs) is not a simple task.
First of all, most EVs do not allow charging of their battery packs while the vehicle is in motion.
The J1772 standard is most common in North America. It is used for Level 1 and Level 2 charging. Charging rates are between 1 and about 7 kW.
This standard allows AC electrical power to be connected to the DC EV car battery. The EV has a charging unit which charges the EV battery.
Communications with the AC supplier is required so the EV charger does not demand more power than the AC side can provide.
There is a complicated handshake communication that occurs between the EV charger and the AC supply system.
Likewise, one can’t just hook up a number of SKLep units and dump energy into the EV battery system.
Bottomline: A lot of detailed engineering is required before a SKLep array could power an EV during driving.
Is the life time of the Ecat SKLed 100 000 hours independently from the luminous flow ?
Warm Regards,
Jan Srajer
Jan Srajer:
Premature,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
1)could you please estimate when you will start the advertisement in germany?
2)Do you already know in which newspapers or professional journals you will advertise?
3)Would it be not cheaper to involve internet influencers and journalists, to invite them for tests to your production line/office? The coverage could be even better compared to advertisements.
Please do all in your power to start production and delivery in this year. Please do not delay 1)-3) or other, even better actions.
Warm regards
Heinrich
Heinrich:
1- premature
2- premature
3- thank you for the suggestion
4- we already explained when we will deliver and why
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mr.Rossi
Has anyone already tried to connect E-catSKLep100W, in a certain quantity, to the battery box of an electric car?
All the best J.Š.
Dear Andrea
Do you have any direct contact with Electrolux AB or similar large manufacturers?
Kind regards, Svein H. Vormedal
Svein H. Vormedal:
We have many contacts, not this one, so far.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
There are reports that the Germans have bought a large number of portable electric heating devices. Are you going to start an advertising campaign in Germany?
Best regards,
D.
Darko:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
what do you do to acquire more pre-orders to reach at least one million. I am sure you don’t just twiddle one’s thumbs.
Inviting technicians of companies/governments, youtube influencers, journalists to your production line so that they can see, write about and test your product under ward would be a cheap method.
Best regards
Heinrich
Heinrich:
Thank you for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
IMAGINE
1. Local power companies that independently power small groups of homes with buried electrical cables that all run from Ecat SKLep units, costing the residents cents on the kW-hr. No more storm damage outages, continuous power, modules replaced on a scheduled basis. Increased in capacity as demand grows – AC, heating.
2. Ocean going cargo ship moving much faster than current cargo shiping, because of low cost Ecal SKLep modules powering massive electrical propulsion units within the cargo ship. Replaced every 10 years when the cargo ship goes in for routine dry dock repairs and updates.
3. Airlines taking off and landing, using only Ecat SKLep power and battery combinations, with flight duration only limited by crew and passenger needs.
4. Cars, and trucking all powered by Ecat SKlep units, essentially free of recharging needs, all powered by Ecat SKLep technology
5. Aluminum plants operating using electrical power from Ecat SKlep power units.
6. Commercial manufacturing plants each with their own independent Ecat SKLep power generation stations – no electrical power outages.
7. Farms operated using Ecat SKLep technology, indoor lamps to grow vegetables, not subject to weather variations.
8. A Lunar and Mars population centers, all powered by Ecat SKLep units, no reliance on Earth resources or transportation issues, or power interruptions.
ALL WITHOUT CARBON EMISSIONS! What a wonderful vision of a possible future! Now, make it happen!
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
At the moment can the Ecat SKLep charge a lithium ion battery?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Frank Acland:
Yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
You are leaving your believers standing in the rain not answering how much time will be necessary for us to buy an Ecat.
Dieter Zoeller
Dieter Zoeller:
Presently I cannot guarantee a date of delivery, therefore you should proceed with your regular power sources, that anyway would be necessary as a back-up-
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi:
Sundays Catholic Mass readings: Eccl1:2: 2-21-2 (The Folly of Vanity) and Lk12: 13-21 (True Wealth in God) How foolish and vain are those who put all their trust in their own devices. I hope you are rich in what matters to God.
Continued success.
Drew G.:
Thank you,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
If you now really have a market-ready product where orders are missing, you must increase your marketing.
The product must be made understandable to as many people as possible.
Denoting the Ecat as a 12 V battery with a 10-year lifetime with the steady and maximum instantaneous performance of 400 Watts per Kilo is a possibility.
That several units, easily, can be connected together to provide 120 or 240 Volts which is transformed into normal alternating current must appear.
A good electric car battery provides approx. 600 Wh per kilo battery. It would then, with a steady load of 400W, be discharged within 1.5 hours. The contrast to 10 years is great.
“No one” will believe this. You must therefore put together several individual demo products that can be delivered to a number of credible laboratories.
They must be able to plug the device into the network, measure the absorbed power and emitted power, for example from an attached heating element.
After 24 hours of operation, they would be able to report that the Ecat delivers 10 to 15 times what one of today’s best car batteries would manage.
After one week, 100 times effectiveness would already be proven.
After 2.5 months, approx. 1000 times efficiency will be clarified.
The results of such reliable laboratories will be far more effectively disseminated, via the press, than what Leonardo corp. would manage.
The laboratories had to continue their testing until product interruptions occurred.
Otherwise, I think the Ecat must be ideal for submarines.
However, marketing must be intensified.
Kind regards, Svein H. vormedal.
Svein H. Vormedal:
Thank you for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello Mr. Rossi,
Energy security in Germany is not certain for the coming winter.
Do I still have to try to have PV modules installed on the roof or can I wait for delivery of the pre-ordered “energy cubes” with hoped delivery in 2022, as a Christmas present?
Dear Andrea Rossi and collaborators,
I’m really concerned.
There is no evidence that financial investors attach any importance to the material problems in the world that are already there and the much bigger problems that will soon be faced by humanity.
We see the land around us wither, while in other places, people’s houses and roads wash away in mudslides.
This will inevitably lead to migrations of many hundreds of millions of people, who will all have to look for a new living environment.
But still…. “investments must above all bring in money”. However, money is no more and no less than a religion: An agreement or promise among people to obtain other, future goods or services in exchange for money.
If the world is damaged too much, and nature comes to claim its due, then all the money in the world will not be enough to fix the planet.
I agree that many of us must first follow the path of frugality and efficiency, but my feeling is that the time is really starting to run out for real material solutions.
After the First World War, there were far fewer mouths to feed. After that, it seemed to have been not enough. In my region we have huge monuments in remembrance of these major events. War seems to have been a good means to correct the behaviour of the common people for a couple of decades. I offer my apologies to the people who are affected.
I’m worried, not at least because of why there is no government in the world that immediately advances all the necessary funds for the distribution of the E-Cat.
There was a time when the available volume of money was tied to an amount of gold. That system was abolished in the early 1970s. Since then, the central banks have determined monetary policy. This is done in consultation with all policy makers in the world, and responds to the real needs of the world I believe(d).
When the need is very high, governments – and not least the so-called deep-state – are able to provide revolutionary solutions.
Many years ago, I’m talking about 2011, there were already people in governments who were interested in the E-Cat project, be it, of course, on condition or on pretext – I’ll leave it up to the truth of either – that it’s about mature technology, with ready-to-use products. Those people I Knew are already retired now.
Browsing the world wide web will reveal several technical solutions, ranging from hydrogen – and syngas – that can be produced from renewable energy sources, to far more sophisticated technologies. Even when it comes to concepts, their presentations of their products sometimes seem to be more professional and credible to a layman than the presentation of the E-Cat. A lot of them may be frauds or may have other problems. We can not know for sure. So credibility is a huge problem nowadays. The media are overcrowded with hoaxes and infotainment these days. People do not know who to believe.
Two hundred and fifty million euros or dollars: Even a developing country should be able to allocate a sufficient budget for this.
Last week at the lottery “euromillions” there was even someone who won 230 million euros.
The region where I live – Flanders – imports about 80 billion worth of goods every quarter.
The combined value of all new-build apartments in one year in one small city exceeds the price of one million E-Cats.
I can go on for some time like this….
I’m really concerned.
Something is not right with this story of the E-Cat.
It all seems so unfair to me.
I ordered 22 units, and I can afford to order another 20 units immediately, but I have no idea what to do with 4000 kWh/h 24/24 7/7. I buy on average every month 100€ natural gas and 150€ electricity. To cook my food I use five bottles of propane (10.5 kg) per year at €30 per bottle on a gas stove which costed me €400. I’m not going to buy some 11kW Ecats to cook steak and chips anyway. I know of a lot of small businesses that are stopping, e.g. local bakeries, because of the high prices for commodities and energy. After they stopped, those local businesses won’t buy the solutions anymore. What I mean is that if we – the people of the world – loose our networks of local activities and businesses, it is very unlikely that this network can be rebuilt soon.
Once it works as a finished product, I can start realizing the household E-Cat installation for many customers, but I can’t ask today that those people all deposit money into my account as an advance? They would take me to court.
Concerned greetings,
Koen
Koen Vandewalle:
Thank you for your insight.
Nobody has to pay a single cent until we deliver the pre-ordered Ecats.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi,
In my opinion:
A) The current “Highest and Best Use” for the SKLep is for EVs (Electric Cars) because they can provide EVs with a feature that no other solution can– unlimited range without the need to recharge.
B) Once EV manufacturers begin to understand the inherent Energy Density of the SKLep, those manufacturers who become Early Adopters of the technology will gain a huge competitive advantage over their peers. Specifically, competitors of Tesla could surge to a leadership position, or Tesla could cement their lead even further. Either way, once EV manufacturers finally catch on, demand for SKLep devices will skyrocket well past your 1 million sales goal.
C) I think the missing element in all of this– that is, the current impediment that’s holding it back– is that Leonardo has not demonstrated sustained kWh power delivery beyond a few minutes.
D) I really do believe that a long-term demonstration is needed ASAP, in early August, to gain EV manufacturer’s attention. It doesn’t need to be a full Plan-B; it doesn’t need to be at a customer’s site; it could be considered a simple tweak of Plan-A.
You mentioned earlier today (7/31) that your investors would not accept shipping units before you have 1 million confirmed orders– I agree that that makes good business sense.
Question:
1) Are your investors also requiring that you not demonstrate anything further until it can be shown from a customer’s location?
Best Wishes,
WaltC
WaltC:
Thank you for your suggestions.
Answer: no, they are not requiring that,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi Andrea.
Naturally, people are getting very impatient with the waiting for a useful product that they can get their hands on. Perhaps the following ideas should be considered by yourself?
Since you have stated recently that the orders are in a roller coaster situation—ie you lose some and gain some, this seems to indicate a stalemate condition around the 800k mark. This being the case, I would suggest that you implement plan B with all speed in order to try to reach the one million target as soon as possible. Surely your investors cannot object to this procedure?
I suggest this action for two reasons;
1) plan A seems to be failing and
2) it will allow you freedom and time to devise plan C should plan B also fail.
With regard to Plan B, I feel that it is unlikely that people with scientific/engineering training and years of experience in these fields will not accept or be impressed with an E-Cat that is run for a year while being permanently connected to the mains supply. Only a battery input would be acceptable along with the output doing real and useful work which can very easily be seen and appreciated immediately.
In addition, people will want to be assured by obvious action that there is no possibility that the system can be supplied with energy from any other external, non-connected source. Glass table/legs and a Faraday style cage come to mind. There may be even better solutions that I am unaware of.
I hope that you will take my suggestions seriously because I detect that some people, who have been following your story for many years, are close to dropping away. Their patience is almost at an end and they may be inclined to cancel their current orders and start a snowball effect, like a run on the banks situation.
With best wishes for the future. Jean Pierre
Jean Pierre:
Thank you for your opinion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
why not sell licences to the people republic of china and others, so that they and other do not need to replicate?
As we already know the USA/Nasa already patented inventions which they stole from you. I would trust the USA not a single millimeter if there is an invention from which the military can profit.
So spread the licences so far it is possible, but therefor you have to contact governments in certain countries, like china.
Best regards
R.Zimmermann
R. Zimmermann:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
I understand you: to offer the Ecat at the price of 250 $ you need to sell enough units to have a proper economy scale and, at the same time, you cannot sell fewer units at a higher price, because no acceptable price could refund you and your investors of the damages generated by the unavoidable reverse engineering.
You are perfectly right,
Cheers
Ronaldo
Ronaldo:
Thank you for your empathy,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi: I know that your goal is 1 million units, but have you considered the rate of economic decline in the U.S. and the other first world countries around the globe? If the SK-LEP isn’t released soon then there may not be any economy left to buy it! Even if you sell 1-million units, do you think countries like China will respect your intellectual property or refrain from stealing your technology faster than the roll out delay for production that you have planned? I suspect that you won’t get half way through your 1-million units built before China steals and clone your technology and cranks them out faster than your factory can. If you want to preserve your dominant position in the market you will probably need a stronger partner like the U.S. Government or a really big industrial player to help you. In my humble opinion the world desperately needs this technology NOW and will probably find a way to get it faster than your plans predict.
Barry Mead:
Thank you for your opinion and for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
You mentioned that the evolution of the SKLep continues. Does this evolution include making reverse engineering more difficult?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
Frank Acland:
To make reverse engineering difficult is impossible, if to make it are guys senior of the matter,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
As we begin a new month (August 2022), perhaps it is a good time to ask a few questions, which you may choose to reveal the answers…
1. If today, you had 1 million confirmed orders, how long before the first production unit would be shipped?
2. Same conditions … What would you initial monthly production rate be?
3. When would the last of the first 1M units be shipped?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
1. 1 week
2. there would be a progression: an integral, not a number
3. 12-18 months
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi, we are all urgently waiting for the Ecat-SKLep. One of my readers now asks whether it would not be possible to increase the price of the device by, for example, 20% if this would allow production to start immediately. A circular letter to the existing customers would certainly clarify this quickly.
Kind regards
W. Meinders, coldreaction.net
Willi Meinders:
As I already explained, to reach orders for at least one million units id necessary for the economy scale and to avoid a reverse engineering without the necessary compensation. To sell few units, even for a price 100 times higher, would give away technology and know how.
Obviously our investors cannot accept this.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Is the standard SKLep unit a DC input/DC output only, with additional components available for AC input and/or AC Output? Such as AC to DC wall adapters or power supplies and a DC to AC inverter separate from the standard SKLep unit?
Steven N. Karels:
Interesting,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
My Tesla Model 3 front trunk, aka Frunk, can support a rectangular box of dimensions 24″ wide, by 16″ deep and 8″ high. Allowing some room for mechanical support and connectors, I believe that I could get a total of 80 SKLep 100W units in the Frunk. Assuming adequate interface electronics would fit and connection to the main battery was possible, I could have about 8 kW of power available to the car.
My Tesla Wall Mount in my garage provides almost 8 kW of charging power and I can fully charge my Model 3 in several hours. I typically run at about 250 W/miles so driving at, say 72 mph, requires about 18 kW of power at that speed. Given that speed, I would normally have sufficient energy, when fully charged, for about 3 hours of operation. During those 3 hours, the SKlep units could provide an additional 24 kW-hr of energy. This would extend the driving time by over an hour. Given the additional hour of driving time and the additional 8 kW-hr of energy, I could likely drive, at that speed, for 5 hours. That would increase my driving range from about 216 miles to 360 miles. Note: I have the lowest cost Model 3 with a more limited battery capacity. A Model with a larger battery capacity would increase the maximum operating range and time proportionately.
If I were to go on an extended trip, say a 1,000 mile trip, I could use Tesla supercharges along the way, but fewer of them. When staying overnight at a motel (for 8 hours), the Electric Vehicle could be fully charged, ready for me in the morning when I continued my journey without a necessary of a stop at a Tesla supercharger before resuming my trip.
If you can develop the 1KW version of the SKLep, with an increased power density, then the SKLep 1kW might be able to provide sufficient continuous power.
Some thoughts.
Dr Rossi,
Here are the stats of your papers on Researchgate I found today on
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
Total Readings 113000
Citations+Mentions 51
Research Interest index 1978
Recommendations 7593
Most Readers by discipline: Electrical Engineering, Theoretical Physics, AI
Seniority: Post Doc, Prof, PhD Students, Senior
And counting…
Best,
Prof
Prof:
Thank you for the update,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@Red Monkey,
2022-07-30 03:15 Red Monkey+
1 : Can 1, 2 or 3 SKLeps with Output 230V.-AC be connected directly to the mains via a socket ? ( Europe )
If you mean connecting the SKLeps’ output (220V 50Hz) to the mains or generator (220V 50Hz) then you need a synchronising interface which synchronises the SKLeps’ sinewave output with the mains’ sinewave. Basically this is what a true on-line uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) does, synchronising the UPS’s inverter frequency with the main’s supply to the load, such as a computer or server.
1 :
Can 1, 2 or 3 SKLeps with Output 230V.-AC be connected directly to the mains via a socket ? ( Europe )
2. :
If not ! , what can you practically do with it to save electricity ?
3. :
Wouldn’t it be a good idea to post a list with several examples of practical possible applications with 1, 2, 3 and more SKLeps?
With setup: Output 230V-AC, Output 12V-DC, with and without converter, etc…..
In any case, it would make many potential buyers decide to order because they see a practical and useful application !
Red Monkey+:
1- yes
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
http://www.ingandrearossi.com
Very interesting
Pedro:
Thank you for your attention,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Greetings Andrea,
Just to get an updated feel for timing, in the event deliveries wouldn’t yet start by the end of 2022, will Plan B still be triggered within this year?
Thanks much,
Steve A.
Steven Albers:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
In your opinion, is the following scenario conceivable?
16*10=160 ECat SKLep are installed horizontally in a box 1.20m*1.00m*0.08m. This box is installed horizontally in the back of an EV bus, with a separating plate above it. The other electronics will be in an extra box and should not be so large. You only lose about 8cm-9cm of loading space in the rear of the bus. The box is operated with the 12 V on-board power supply of the bus. With a private special design and special approval, the box is then connected to the large battery and the battery is charged, even while driving. Should the battery be drained due to high consumption, it would still be possible to drive with approx. 16 KW.
Kind regards
Wilfried
Mr. Rossi
It would be a boon for electric car manufacturers to be able to test Rossi’s generators and possibly plug them into the system. For A.Rossi, it would be the most efficient and easiest way to introduce his generators to the world. It would only be enough to agree with a manufacturer on the method of testing. Connecting to the battery system itself would also not be difficult. I think this is happening right now. In addition. Connection with the automotive industry could significantly help him and make it easier to establish himself in the market. Plus, it would dispel all guesswork about functionality. It would be enough to simply drive a car by a famous manufacturer and an electric car revolution would occur. Every electric car manufacturer would have to equip their cars with a generator charger. The development would then go further. Car companies would start to compete in efficiency and eventually there would be one small battery left in the electric car and everything else would be provided by generators.
All the best J.Š.
Dear Andrea,
1. Do you expect that the 1 KW SKLep can be on the market this year?
2. Do you consider to demonstrate the 1 kW SKLep as your ‘plan B’ device?
Thanks if you can answer.
Kind regards, Gerard
Gerard McEk:
1. It depends on the pre-orders and the vetting results related to the buyers financial reliability
2. We are not disclosing so far the nature of the possible Plan B
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Today the paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
reached 104000 readings,
and counting…
Cheers
Prof
Prof:
Thank you for the update,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
To Red Monkey+
Two Skleps will generate 200 Wh/h, x24=4.8 kWh/day, x30=144 kWh/month, x12=1728 kWh/year. If you are within this consume of elecric energy, charging a battery and an inverter, you can utilize your own energy, if not you buy the Skleps needed.
Kind regards
I ordered : 2 SKLep 100W. – Input 230V-AC – Output 230V.-AC to experiment.
Are there here on the forum who have also ordered , a practical application for this , for 1 or 2 such SKLep?
Kind regards
Red M.
Red Monkey+:
I don’t know,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear dr. Rossi,
The time is going on and we wait hard for the signal to start the delivery of the Skleps. Can you give an update of the confirmed orders? If you can`t give a number, can you say a tendency? Are you still the opinion, that the distribution starts in 2023?
Thank you – Andreas
Andreas:
I prefer not to give numbers, because preorders and vetting make a roller coaster, but I think we will succeed,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi
Followup to GEORGE PRAZAK’s question
George asked, answer is no:
.4watts to kickstart 1 SKLEP.
.4Watts to kickstart 100 SKLEP?
I ask:
of the order of 1 W or less to run a single SKLEP?
of the order of 1 W or less to run a single SKLEP that can run of the order of 100 SKLEPs?
If the answer is no to either one, what is the correct information?
Best regards
LarryG
Dr LG:
Please find the data here:
http://www.ecat.com
See there also the video of the presentation.
Answers:
1- yes
2- no
3- depends on the situation
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I ordered : 2 SKLep 100W. – Input 230V-AC – Output 230V.-AC
They operate at 50 Hz. ?
Red Monkey+:
50 Hz in Europe, 60 Hz in the USA, etc: we will make the frequency fit in the specific location.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
DR. ROSSI:
.4watts to kickstart 1 SKLEP.
.4Watts to kickstart 100 SKLEP?
GEORGE PRAZAK
GEORGE PRAZAK:
No,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi: As an electronics engineer specializing in automatic control theory, I may have a suggestion to help you. If you are having issues with Stability of the A.I. control system, then perhaps your situation could be improved by adding “PID” feedback technology to your control system. PID stands for Proportional, Integral, and Differential. Adding these elements to your feedback loop improves stability, optimizes response time, and ensures long term stability. The proportional feedback is standard feedback, the Differential feedback provides look-ahead predictive responsiveness, and the Integral feedback ensurers long-term stability and drift mitigation. If you haven’t already incorporated this technology into your A.I. control system then this could be the answer you have been looking for. Best of Luck, Sincerely, Barry Mead
Barry Mead:
Thank you for your suggestions,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
please start the delivery of ecats unconditionally this year.
Here in europe not one regime wants to buy from russia, rather they let the people freeze and starve.
But also i do not want to get energy from torture states like Katar, USA, Sauds and therefor your invention is needed more than ever.
Best regards
V.Schmid
V.Schmid:
Leonardo Corporation has investors that would sueour Corporation should we give away uncinditionally the Ecat to be reverse engineered.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
To @Italo R.
I think the exact opposite. Reverse engineering will be even easier when the first generators are delivered. The proof should be the theoretical work of A. Rossi, where four possible ways of looking at the Rossi phenomenon are discussed. In this way, it will be possible to copy the invention with the possibility of modifications, which will not be legally punishable.
All the best
Italo R
Tout à fait d’accord avec votre argument.
De plus la recherche est vite démotivante lorsque l’on ne sait pas si la solution recherchée existe vraiment …
Or ,cette fois ci, notre cher Docteur a démontré que c’est possible, donc il est certain que des chercheurs travaillent sans compter jusqu’au résultat .
Donc, Andréa a raison de retarder le plus possible la rétro-engénierie qui leur faciliterait le travail.
Bien cordialement,
François Muzard
@Italo R.
honestly I don’t think reversing is a problem at least for the first few years, remember Mr. Rossi has a 10-year lead on this technology or more, and from what we know the product is in constant evolution, this ensures an advantage with potential competitors, finally it is practically impossible to imitate such advanced technology without knowing the exact principle, this problem unfortunatly is transversal to all innovations, lack of knowledge is the cause of the current situation where we still heat up with wood or gas.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
I have read that Dacia produces its electric car “Spring” model in China which is then sold in Europe at a price of around 20,000 euros.
According to the article, China is now producing and selling a “Spring” clone car, priced at 6,000 euros. It is a virtually identical car which obviously does not have the development and design costs of the original Dacia and this also explains why the cost is so low.
That’s why, in another field, Dr. Rossi fears easy reverse engineering.
https://auto.everyeye.it/notizie/dacia-spring-sosia-cinese-dongfeng-e1-6-000-euro-549492.html
Kind Regards,
Italo R.
Italo R.:
Correct,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
Due to the current war in Ukraine and the effects of the sanctions, many raw materials are scarce or extremely expensive.
1. Which raw material used at Ecat SKLep is particularly scarce or has become expensive in recent months?
3. Is there a great dependency on autocratic states being willing to deliver any material?
2. Does the current situation possibly affect your cost accounting?
Rolf:
1. none
2. no
3. no
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
you wrote that you need 18 month to deliver one million orders.
Can you accelarate the production and delivery, especially if the orders will increase after the first million?
Best regards
Frank
F.Dangel:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea and blog readers,
A post for you, Jed Rothwell on e-cat world.
https://e-catworld.com/2022/07/24/iccf24-short-course-cold-fusion-will-lower-the-cost-of-both-energy-and-equipment-jed-rothwell/
Best regards, Richard Wells.
Dear Andrea,
to make the waiting time more entertaining, I would like to ask a few interesting questions.
1) In the meantime, do you have any initial ideas on how to shrink the Ecat by orders of magnitude?
2) Is there already a working prototype of the 1 KW Ecat?
3) The Ecat so far has an extremely high energy density, 11 years 100 W @250g (about 10 MWh). Is it physically conceivable to reverse this ratio, and achieve an extremely high power density, e.g. 10 MW in one hour?
Best regards
Wilfried
Wilfried Babelotzky:
1- no
2- yes, but not ready
3- no
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
Are you still developing a jet engine power by eCat technology?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
@Jack,
Thank you for this important reference,
Best
Prof
Dr Rossi,
Maybe to you and the readers of this blog can be useful to know the recent publication of this book:
United Field Theory and Occam’s Razor: Simple Solutions to Deep Questions
authored by Andras Kovacs, Giorgio Vassallo, Paul O’Hara, Francesco Celani, Antonino Oscar Di Tommaso
Published by World Scientific on July 21st 2022
Sold by
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Dear Andrea,
Are the theoretical hypothesis made in the paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
still considerable valid after all the experiments you mede in the last two years ?
Congratulations for the fantastic video I found on
http://www.ecat.com
RR
Roberto Ridolfi:
Yes, absolutely,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
Apart the issue of the necessity to reach orders for at least 1 million units, which we can understand and makes sense, are all the other technological issues resolved ?
Best,
JoNP Follower
JoNP Follower:
Yes, but the evolution is always going on,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr.Rossi,
do you know this company?: https://ndb.technology ?
They are developing small nuclear batteries which are using sources made from atomic waste and deliver constant energy over hundreds of years witout having recharged.
Do not you too think that you now should hurry with our Ecat-SKLep to start flood the market ?
I think it is very time now !!
Best regards,
Roffi
Roffi:
Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
Do you expect to receive a large number of new pre-orders shortly after you start the process of delivery?
Best regards,
Darko
Darko:
Maybe,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi: We know from your demonstration that the E-CAT SK-LEP works great when the load resistance remains constant at 1 Ohm. Can you describe how well the SK-LEP handles variations in load resistance? From what you have, and have not shared with the public, it seems to me that the SK-LEP has trouble handling a variable load resistance. If you are charging a battery the load resistance will remain relatively constant, but if you are powering an inverter it will vary greatly depending on how much power is demanded at the inverter’s output. Is this why you have not recommended any brand/model of inverter, or shown any photos or diagrams of SK-LEP’s powering inverters? If the SK-LEP has trouble handling a variable load, is there a good work around? Perhaps charging one battery while a duplicate battery is in use powering the inverter? How far from the 1 ohm value can the load resistance vary and still have the SK-LEP working properly?
Barry Mead:
The Ecat works also if the resistance of the load varies,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
you wrote many times that the ecat work just if it is plugged to the mains, up to now. And you work and research on the SSM without mains.
Maybe you can attach this fact on the top of to your blog. So people must not ask again and again why it does not work in cars, yet.
Best regards
Michael
Michael:
Not true,
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Where are the mail places you are working now for the Ecat ?
Best
Ursula
Ursula:
USA and Europe, so far
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Red Monkey:
10 to 20 Euro, depending on the kind,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea ,
How much is the shipping cost for 1 SKLep 100W to Belgium ?
And is this per 1 SKLep ? or the same for 3 or 5 pieces ?
Thanks
Red Monkey
Scrub H.Vormedal:
Thank you for your suggestion.
Warm w
A.R.
Wilfried Babelotzy:
Thai application demands certifications we do not have yet.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
what is so difficult about equipping a car with a range extender with ECats instead of a generator?
There are certainly many hobbyists who would be happy to do this free of charge.
Best Regards,
Wilfried
Dear Andrea
I could imagine 20 Ecat connected in series that gives 240 volts.
These should have been mounted in a frame together with a DC to AC converter.
I could then connect one or more such devices to my current facility.
For me, it would be reassuring to have the inverter adapted and delivered from you.
Sincerely, Svein H. Vormedal
Dear Andrea Rossi,
It appears that the SKLep components can (potentially) produce a constant level of electrical power for long periods of time. However, the actual daily electrical demand for an industrialized society varies over the day. Usually, peak demand occurs during the day, while minimal during the nighttime. Commercial large storage batteries (e.g., Tesla) might be coupled with the output of the SKLep unit(s). The SKLep units would produce power at a constant level, and the battery storage would handle the peaks and valleys of the grid demand variations. Multiple clusters of such units, operating in parallel would provide decentralization. Some system control logic and network communications would be required for start-up, shut-down, and other transitory conditions. Thoughts?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Thank you for the suggestion, to be tested,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mr Rossi,
How do you reconcile what is written in the paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
with the fact that by the first principle of thermodynamics “free meals” do not exist ?
Best
Julian
Julian:
Prof. Alan Guth ( MIT ): “They say free meals do not exist, but the whole Universe is a free meal” ( from “The Theory of Everything” by S.W. Hawking, Lesson 5 “The Origin and Fate of the Universe”- 2002 by New Millennium Press )
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Andrea Rossi,
How much long you think will be the payback period of an indistrial Ecat?
a
Dear Andrea:
Can you explain the situation and the next moves in the litigation on course between you and IH ?
In the blogs there are many contradictory assumptions, can you make the situation more understandable ?
Thank you if you can answer,
a
Dr Andrea Rossi
Congratulations for your US Patent: never give up, we trust you- Thank you for your mission to make jobs.
God bless you
A.
a
a
a
Hi, Andrea.
Thinking of the 100% electric vehicle and its batteries that are used for powering the wheels, could your SKLep at this time be specifically used for charging these batteries while the vehicle is in motion?
Thanks for a simple yes or no answer so as to not take up your valuable time with a longer explanation.
Warmest regards. Jean Pierre
Jean Pierre:
I am not able to answer, yet: theoretically yes, but we do not have yet experimental confirmation in the specific situation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Mr. Rossi,
You have been offering Ecat Plants for the production of industrial heat for some time.
I have a few questions about this:
Is the basic technology used there (physical effect) the same as with Ecat SKLep?
In Europe, due to the situation in Ukraine, there is a shortage of gas and in the industry
a large demand for industrial heat. Why don’t you offer the industrial Ecat more aggressively?
Why is there only one branch office in Spain/Portugal in Europe? And not e.g. in Germany or France?
Rolf:
1- yes
2- I already answered
3- not true
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
How many are the probabilities that within the year 2022 you will perform either plan A or plan B ?
Robert:
100%
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Will you make public the certification made by the independent certifying company ?
Thank you if you can answer,
Biro
Biro:
The certification number will be delivered to our Clients at the delivery of the Ecat SKLep.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Can you swear that all the content of
http://www.ingandrearossi.com
is true ?
Silent Majority Guy
SMG,
Yes, I swear,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi, it has been said that the stone age did not end because cavemen ran out of stones, and the oil age will not end because the world runs out of oil. In restrospect, from the works of Nikola Tesla, to the 1989 cold fusion discovery, and perhaps many other wonderful developments in energy creation that have been derided, discredited, supressed or quietly filed into obscurity, it is increasingly horrific to think that the nartural destruction of our planet, and possibly its increasing inhospitility to life for ourselves and future generations, has been caused foursquare by the selfish and greedy interests of the oil industry. A fair guess is that this industry and its associated allies in governments is and has always been the most virulent enemy of new technologies in this respect. Undoubtedly they were aware of the damage being caused to our planet’s ecosystems, but human greed and wickedness triumphed over all other considerations, in theur desire to perpetuate and increase oil use. God willing, the E Cat, its future variants, and many associated technologies will appear in the world marketplace very soon, before the ecological destruction becomes terminal.
David-UK:
Thank you for your insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi,
Which word would you oppose to the word “Evolutionism” ?
Eliah
Eliah:
“Entropy”
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi: For months now you have only confirmed that you have produced around 100 SK-LEP units. If all the bugs are worked out why aren’t you making more SK-LEP units NOW? The factory is ready, and sitting idle it is probably costing you more than if you were using it to make SK-LEP units. Since you are sure you will reach your goal by the end of the year, why not get a head start on production? Why wait to start the 18-month production delay? It seems that perhaps there are still some issues that you have not solved or you would be cranking out more units already. Are there still bugs to work out?
Barry Mead:
1- The production of 1 million units has a cost by orders of magnitude superior to an idle factory.
2- You, obviously, did not read what I wrote many times: I am not sure I will reach the critical target, although I think we will, otherwise we’d start
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hello DR Rossi
Is the ECat-SKLep Self Certified
or Third Party Certified.
https://certification-experts.com/knowledgebase/can-i-self-certify-a-product-with-ce-certification/
Regards
Sam
Sam:
The Ecat SKLep certification is, obviously, a Third Party Certification made by a certification company.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi when we are talking about fuel (for Ecat SKLep) , is it real (H2,Ni,Pd ,D2 etc..) or we deal with ZPE (zero point energy) ?
Warm Regards,
P.V.
Pavel:
Both,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi
Has the CE certification been made by an independent Certification Company ?
Best
Yuri
Yuri:
Yes
Warm Regards
A.R.
hello dr rossi,
after you have not given us any information about a (particular)
MIL standardization could give.
What about the CE mark for products in the European Union?
Without such a mark, distribution in the EU is probably not feasible!
Heinz Sause,
The Ecat SKLep has obtained the CE certification.
Warm Regards
A.R.
Dr. Rossi,
The single greatest feature of the Ecat-SKLep is its ability to produce 100W of electric power, uninterrupted, for anywhere from 3 years (Warranty period) to 11.4 years (Operational Lifetime); however, currently, the only reinforcement that exists for this very important spec is a single 14 minute video.
Experience suggests that when people make purchase decisions– be it for small or large purchases– they prefer to rely on multiple, corroborative data points rather than just one.
So my question:
1) Is there any way– sooner than “Plan B” and with less effort than Plan B– to provide additional, confirmatory evidence of the SKLeps sustained kWh power delivery?
Thanks,
WaltC
WaltC:
That’s the plan B
Warm Regards,
A.R.
You are very concerned about reverse engineering of your product, and I assume that you know best and have reason to be concerned. I assume that you have plans to manage this risk, but might I provide my thoughts?
You have an advantage of being first to market, and thereby creating a brand loyalty which should help. I assume you have plans to quickly increase production to meet demand, thus maintaining your advantage. Over the longer term, however, I think you will benefit from having a path of continuous improvements which will keep your market advantage going and give loyal customers an opportunity for cutting edge products, keeping your competitors always behind you.
I would like to muse a bit about future developments you can make, and indeed you are already working on many of these, I am sure. It will be critical to manage the order in which your improved products are introduced, to take advantage of your competitors’ necessity to reverse engineer rather than create.
So, the first thing I can think of is price. You will want gradually lower the price of your products – you don’t necessarily have to always be the cheapest, but you will have to maintain a competitive price. Apple computers are never the cheapest, but they are always competitive because of their quality. Taking a cue from Apple, design is also a factor which can make a huge difference – a beautiful, well designed product will always be a competitive factor.
Another thing you can improve is power density – either by making the product smaller or more powerful. You are working on this with the 1Kw model already. There will be some physical limit to how small or powerful individual units can be made, but it is usually more than can be imagined at the beginning!
The next thing is to make the product more versatile. As you have noted, the best use of the SKLep currently is as a battery charger, working while attached to grid power. The units can run in self-sustaining mode, so drawing very little power from the grid, while charging a household size battery to meet the actual electricity needs of the home. I calculated that, by simply running a few SKLep units which simply fed power back to the grid, I could largely eliminate my electricity bills (except for the “delivery” charges our power utility charges).
It is also an ideal companion to a solar power system – the solar system can be much smaller, mostly for powering several SKLep units, which will charge the batteries. This would provide most of the power a household can use. I haven’t compared the payback periods for the SKLep relative to solar panels, but I bet it would be a large advantage. If some of the power can be sold to the grid, so much the better.
What will be a huge improvement for customers is increased autonomy of operation, that is, being able to use the SKLep system without access to constant input power from the grid. You have said that it might be possible for the SKLep to charge the battery which supplies it. While the SKLep units won’t be able to run in SSM in this situation, operation in this mode will improve the variety of situations in which a customer might use the SKLep.
However, having a model which will start without external input and work in self-sustaining mode will be the ultimate advantage. This would allow the SKLep to be used in almost any setting for almost any use. Power available anytime, anywhere, for any purpose!
I will finish with a couple of questions –
1) Are you currently planning a path of improvements similar to what I have laid out?
2) Are these improvements intended to maintain competitiveness against copycat manufacturers?
I would be interested if anyone else can think of improvements that can be made to keep the E-Cat competitive in the face of competition!
Ron
Ron Stringer:
Thank you for your suggestions.
Answers:
1- yes
2- yes
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Alwssandro Coppi:
Thank you for your suggestion, but it does not work that way,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi
Have you already decided on a date for the conclusion of “plan A” and the start of “plan B”?
if so, when?
thanks if you can answer
Best Regards
Maico
Maico:
Plan A finalization depends on when we will reach orders for at leasy 1 million units. Plan B will be activated if within 2022 the target for A will not be reached,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
I read today the website
http://www.ingandrearossi.com
Very inspiring.
Thank you and your team for your work,
Best
SMG
SMG:
Thank you for your attention to the work of our Team,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Hi Andrea,
if your concern is about the funds available at the order time of big buyers, you should make different prices for wholesale resellers and private customers, in this way the more ecat a reseller will purchase, the more funds will have in a very short time.
If the E-CAT will work as described, there are no risks of bankrupt for the resellers.
Best regards
Alessandro Coppi
Mr.Rossi
I know you’re careful about business. But could your advertising activity be more aggressive?
Warm regards
Jan Srajer:
Thank you for your attention to the work of our Team,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Greetings Andrea,
On the Leonardo SKLep page (https://ecat.com/ecat-sklep), it is indicated it can run with an e-bike and by using a standard rechargeable battery. Could you remind me how this relates to the discussion that it still needs a mains connection?
Steve Albers:
Right question: it is a matter of limitation in autonomy and SSM.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mr.Rossi
I am reading the theoretical publication https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long-range_particle_interactions
– as a layman and invention enthusiast and I must say that your work fits into the mosaic. Joseph Papp noble engine, Tariel Kapanadze – coil producing energy using a synchronized magnetic vortex and spark gap, Ruslan Kulabuchov from the city of Riga, apparently using the Aharonov-Bohm effect – high-voltage nanosecond pulses acting on a current solenoid.However, none of these inventors were able to bring their work to a successful conclusion for various reasons.
I am convinced that you have the most difficult challenge ahead of you.
All the best J.Š.
Claus Buerger:
You’d need 10 Ecats. The particulars of the installation depend on the situations
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Claus Buerger:
A) Possibly
B) Possibly
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea
Most of us have one or more battery-powered hand tools.
My Ryobi has an 18 V rechargeable lithium battery that holds 72 Wh.
This weighs over 700 grams and has a slightly larger volume than Ecat.
It gives an energy density of 100 Wh / kg.
This is the same as an Ecat of 250 grams delivers in one hour.
Ecat’s energy density is then: 4 x 100,000 what my Ryobi battery holds.
For me to find out if Ecat lasts for 100,000 hours takes time.
I can see in one day that an Ecat gives the same as 100 such Ryobi units.
By extending the test time to one month, I will see that a 250 g Ecat delivers the same as 3000 Ryobi for a total weight of just over 2 tons.
After a month of production of approx. 55,000 units, clear market reactions should be present.
These are the ones that will determine if you get one million units delivered in 18 months.
Starting a production without a million Ecats to order will be successful if the first 55,000 meet expectations.
By connecting 10 Ecat in series to a simple 1200 W panel oven and supplying these with 10 W from the mains, a long-term test can be performed at the home of anyone and everyone with a 120 V mains.
Regards Svein H. Vormedal
Svein H. Vormedal:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
Why are you afraid of insufficient demand for your energy device in the midst of a major energy crisis?
Best regards,
D.
Darko:
All we need are proofs of funds,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
thanks for your work!
A)will there be a possibility to also produce three-phase current with the ecats?
B)or do we need an external 3-phase inverter for this application?
Dear Dr. Rossi,
thanks for your work!
A)Could we run a 1000W/230VAC van heater, by running 4x 12Vin/230Vout Ecats by connecting them at the outside in parallel?
B)Does it need an additional device to switch them parallel?
C)Or is the electrical phase automatically synchronized between parallel connected 230VAC-out Ecats?
Dear Dr. Rossi
A new suggestion for exposing SKLep to a larger audience.
Book an exhibition booth at a technical or consumer electronics conference. Display the SKLep in action with a visual load such as a string of patio lights. Put in power meters/voltmeters/ammeters all over the place to show “power gain”. Use a cumulative power meter such as https://www.amazon.com/Consumption-Electricity-Analyzer-Overload-Protection/dp/B07M9KJRKP to show cumulative KWh during the show, probably only will give you one days worth of KWh if you unplug it overnight. This will show that the system cannot be a battery or such. Have a scale to weigh each of the SKLep boxes.
Handout would list details of all test instruments used, brand, model, accuracy etc.
Take home the equipment every night to keep your IP safe.
Maybe this is riskier, but offer to put in anyone’s measuring instrument in place of yours, after you verify it works properly. For example they can bring their own wattmeter, you verify it gives same wattage measurement for a test set up (simple A/C in, your meter, their meter, load, all in series) then put it into your display to show the display reading is real.
Best Regards
LarryG
DrLG:
Thank you for your suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
I’m surprised at the 18-month production time. Then the reverse engineering argument is now invalidated.
To rule out plagiarism, you have to scale up much faster.
You shouldn’t dream. The Chinese will put 5000 engineers to work on reverse engineering, and when they have succeeded they will produce 1 million per week.
Just an opinion, but backed up by projects I know.
Kind regards
Wilfried
Wilfried Babelotzky:
Thank you for your opinion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Dr. Rossi,
If the process of manufacturing and delivery will last 18 months, and it hasn’t even started yet, why the big buyers have to show you the money right now? Couldn’t they borrow the money shortly before the purchase?
Best regards,
D.
Darko:
Obviously we need to be sure that the 1000000 units will be paid before manufacturing. We don’t ask payments before the units are ready for delivery, all we ask is a proof of funds that guarantees the big buyers have the money available, otherwise we’d risk a bankrupcy.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr. Rossi,
Speaking of Ecat SKLeps in electric cars, Consumer Reports released a survey today about top concerns people have with respect to buying Electric Vehicles and:
“When asked about the top concerns preventing them from making the jump from gas to electric, 61% cited charging logistics, followed by 55% saying the number of miles the vehicle can go per charge and 52% saying the costs of buying and maintaining an electric-only vehicle.”
So an SKLep option would largely solve 2 of the 3 dominant concerns.
Best Wishes,
WaltC
WaltC:
Thank you for the insight,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea Rossi,
1. Is one of your aspirational goals for the 1kW (and larger) SKLep units a higher specific power density (W/kg)?
2. The same question for volumetric power density (W/m3)?
Steven Nicholes Karels:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea,
First of all, may I say that I agree that inverters accomplish the DC-to-AC conversion?
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Tom
Tom Conover:
The answer is yes. Thank you for the information,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear dr. Rossi,
some days ago, you gave the information, that production and delivery oft he 1000 k SKleps will need about 18 month.
1.If I want to order additonal units after testing the first devices, do I have to wait until the whole delivery of the preordered SKleps to the customers is fullfilled and then beginns the next turn?
2.If the answer to 1 is yes, it would make sence to order now enough units for the first time?
3.Is a 230 V AC unit able to work parallel to the grid?
4.If the chosen mode is 230 V AC, consiting of some combined SKleps ex works, is it possible to disassemble them later to 12 V single units?
5.Five days ago, you told us: „theoretically we should be close to the target, but the real situation could be quite different.“ Means this the target is to see on the horizon and it needs only a short time to start delivery?
Thank you for the trouble and the time you donate for us nosy customers – Andreas
Andreas:
1. no
2. n.a.
3. depends on the situation
4. same as in 3
5. means that many big buyers after vetting turn out to be far from having the financial bases to confirm the orders
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Mr. Rossi
Can the E-CAT-SKL also supply electric energy to an electric motor?
Warm Regards
Jan Srajer:
That’s a dream I share
Warm Regards
A.R.
Mr.Rossi
I have a dream. electric car Tesla-Ball lightning with accupack 26kWh and with 26kWx11year EcatSKLep100W. Altogether 52kWh City car without charging
All the best
Dear Dr. Rossi: Have you worked out all of the bugs to allow the E-CAT SK-LEP to work with solar panel inverters? Since you have not shown any pictures of such a configuration, or shared any make/model of inverter that has been tested with the E-Cat SK-LEP one has to wonder if there are still problems with the SK-LEP’s compatibility with solar panel inverters. Please try to alleviate these fears with some actual evidence. If you can present such evidence, I will gladly increase my number of pre-order units, and I am sure many other people feel the same way. A simple photo of a known working inverter connected to an E-CAT SK-LEP will sell hundreds of thousands of units very quickly. Unless you are hiding known problems with the E-CAT SK-LEP I would think you would be excited to share this information with the public.
Barry Mead:
Thank you for the suggestion,
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dr Rossi:
Is all the content of
http://www.ingandrearossi.com
true ?
Best,
Alex
Alex:
Yes,
Warm Regards,
A.R.